The Word Became Flesh

Why I Reject the Trinity Part: 13

I am still working out the revelation of the origin of Jesus. I do believe that he existed prior to his birth on earth. He is mentioned in the book of Enoch as the “Son of Man” or “Elect One” who sits on a throne with the Father. This man will bring righteousness to the elect. He will cause the gentiles to repent and judge the living and the dead. Sections of this book were written possibly up to 3,100 years prior to Jesus birth.

The Book of Enoch is quoted in the book of Jude.
“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Jude 1:14-15

“And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” 1Enoch 1:9

Whatever Jesus was prior to the incarnation I believe his incarnation in human form was done through word. (John 1) That is, the word of God that was revealed in pieces to men over the first 6,000+ years of humanity, and spoken by men into the physical world. Without that process Jesus could not have accessed our planet. God had to speak him into physical existence through men because we had dominion over the physical world. In essence God had to get men to say, "Let there be Jesus!" and there was Jesus. (see Dominion 1 & 2) It just took 6,000+ years for men to cooperate with God on this one. Would you have been the one to say, "a virgin shall conceive"?

I don’t believe he was the abstract or impersonal Logos of the Father. I believe he was the son of God and a being of some kind in the Elohim yet was someone other than and inferior in rank to the Father. At his human incarnation he became something that did not previously exist and remains that way in a glorified state. In essence he changed in substance and rank, the Father does not.

Origen Adamantius (184/185–253/254) has some interesting ideas on this topic. I can’t say that I agree with him regarding the pre-existence of souls but I find his version of the pre-existent Jesus very interesting to say the least.

That's all I have to say about that.

PART 14