Trinity VS. the Gospel

Why I Reject the Trinity Part: 5

In Psalms 8:5 if you notice the difference among translations, the KJV says:
"For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels (Elohim), and hast crowned him with glory and honour."

If you don’t like the KJV the verse is also mentioned in the Book of Hebrews in Greek as angels,
Hebrews 2:7
“Thou madest him a little lower than the angels (aggelos); thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands”

So, allowing scripture to interpret scripture the New Testament translates the Old and claims that Elohim means the Father, men (Ps. 82:6) and now we see angels (Ps.8:5, Heb 2:7). These texts in my opinion are speaking of God family as opposed to an exclusive Trinity. I also find more harmony in God family with oneness, Spirit, Soul, and Body, as well as general natural reading of the text.

We can see that the creative Elohim of Genesis 1:26 clearly can include more meaning than the traditional view of a triune God. It includes men and angels, implying a heavenly host of God family. Also, the Hebrews had no intention of a plural form of Elohim to be seen as a three part deity. Now, understandably they could have been ignorant of this truth which God was revealing through them. Yet, to use the grammatical nature of a Hebrew word, in an attempt to negate the core Hebrew doctrine of Monotheism, seems a bit of a stretch.

The Bible does not claim that the creative Genesis 1 “us” is implying Trinity. I believe the Father was telling the heavenly hosts (Elohim) what he was going to do, and that they too have His image. I’m not implying that the hosts have creative power (I don’t know if they do or don’t) I’m saying they participated and gloried in the Father’s work. Just because man is made in the image of Elohim does not by default mean angels are not. As we saw previously angels are Elohim just as are we. We both share the image of Elohim with the Father.

I am not simply expanding the Trinity to include angels, heavenly beings, and men. I believe the core problem with the Trinity doctrine is that it doesn’t make proper distinction between Jesus, the Father, and us.

Is Jesus God? Yes, in Elohim nature, but not in the Trinitarian form. If we believe that one being is expressed in three persons then when Jesus does something it is also the Father and the Holy Spirit doing it by means of perfect agreement. Jesus’ actions are simply the current expression of that Triune being. If the Trinitarian Jesus rebukes you and is angry with you then the Father is rebuking and angry too.

Jesus says to the church, in Revelation 3:19 “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.” Yet in Isaiah 54:9 the Father is stating about our covenant to the church, “so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.”
How can this be? For those who understand the true gospel, how can “God” be completely reconciled, at peace, pleased, and not imputing sin; while at the same time irreconciled, angry, against men with a sword, and imputing sin? I don’t believe the Trinity doctrine is compatible with Paul’s gospel; this is my primary reason for rejecting it.

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PART 6

Humans are God

Why I Reject the Trinity Part: 3

“Let us make man in our image”
God

“The trinity doctrine, admitted by the Catholic Encyclopedia as unsupportable by either the Old Testament or New Testament, but only through "Christological speculation" severely corrupts the truth of the scriptures. Elohim, used 2,570 times throughout the scriptures refers to a plural family unit in the process of expanding. God considers individuals with His Spirit to be part of the Godhead already, in unity of purpose and ultimately in composition. Like the term "United States of America," considered as one unit or institution, the family of God or the kingdom of God is a singular unit ' consisting of many family members growing into the fullness of God.”

The Nature of God: Elohim, the God Family
John W. Ritenbaugh

This is my basic belief as well. As you read through the Bible you will find scriptures that speak of Him plural and singular. We perceive him talking to “himself” for instance regarding the tower of Babel, as if He needed the consultation.

Gen 11:7-8
“Come, let us go down there and confuse their language”

Maybe these are symbolisms to show the communion within a Trinity. Better yet, maybe they are anthropomorphisms for our inadequate human minds to try to understand God. Or, maybe He (Jehovah) is genuinely having discourse among the Elohim.

What would common sense tell us?
A. That the triune God in perfect communion and agreement within himself stops to have a chat with himself in order to tell himself, “let’s go down there.”
B. That a hierarchy of heavenly beings, the Elohim, talk with Yahweh and each other as different persons with different points of view and different levels of knowledge.

In a reference to the tower of Babel event found in Gen 11:8, some claim that because Jehovah is named as the one who scattered that he must have worked alone and therefore he is singular (Jehovah) and plural (Elohim) at the same time. Let’s consider that logic; for example in Gen 14:8 it talks about five kings that join battle in the vale of Siddim. Should we assume by this logic that five lone men joined in a war or that they brought their armies to fight? If the king of Sodom were to say “let us fight” would we assume that he was a plural yet singular being or that he had people with him?

In the family version of Elohim it allows for all things that come forth from Elohim to be “of God” yet not the very creator being “God” himself. Let’s be more specific. I believe the term God is misleading; since we see that we, humans, are also “god” (Elohim).

Psalm 82:6

"I said you are gods (Elohim), and all of you are sons of the Most High"

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